Future of Threat Intelligence

Welcome to the Future of Threat Intelligence podcast, where we explore the transformative shift from reactive detection to proactive threat management. Join us as we engage with top cybersecurity leaders and practitioners, uncovering strategies that empower organizations to anticipate and neutralize threats before they strike. Each episode is packed with actionable insights, helping you stay ahead of the curve and prepare for the trends and technologies shaping the future.

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Episodes

Thursday Jul 27, 2023

In this week's episode of the Future of Cyber Risk podcast, David speaks to Philipp Amann, Head of Strategy, European Cybercrime Centre at Europol. They discuss the need for collaboration between industry and law enforcement to help combat cybercrime, and how to go about fostering trust and information exchange in more effective and sustainable ways. They also talk about the major risks to organizations today, like legacy systems, ransomware, and AI, and how to better manage complexity to reduce cyber risk.
Topics discussed:
Philipp's broad background in intelligence and cybersecurity, from starting in the military and moving to governance roles in cybercrime, to his current role at Europol.
The need for collaboration to combat cybercrime, and how it requires resources, trust, common ground, incentives, and sustainable approaches.
How understanding cybercrime requires knowledge across a variety of areas, especially to articulate cybercrime issues to non-technical audiences.
The challenges to information sharing across alliances with different limitations and legislations to consider, and the need to address those challenges to reach common goals.
Why one of the biggest risks to organizations today is legacy systems that may still be infected with older vulnerabilities, and why security teams need to focus on both zero-day and 1000-day vulnerabilities.
The ways in which criminals are already beginning to exploit AI and use it to impersonate CEOs, write better code, or create more convincing spam emails.
The rise in the crime-as-a-service model, which could include rogue cryptocurrency exchanges, criminal VPN services, or other malicious businesses.

Thursday Jul 13, 2023

In this week's special episode of the Future of Cyber Risk podcast, David speaks to Team Cymu's Josh Picolet, Director of S2 Threat Analysis Unit, and Wassim Tawbi, Head of Product Management, about their new product, Pure Signal Scout. They discuss the customer needs that Scout was created to meet, the collaboration behind how the product was developed, and the elements of Scout's design and interface. They also talk about the benefits Pure Signal Scout offers in terms of speed, ease of use, and access to rich data that can help make threat hunting more targeted and effective — and makes threat hunting more accessible for teams who may not have had access to advanced capabilities before.
Topics discussed:
The origins of Pure Signal Scout and the customer pain points around ease of use, speed, and efficacy that lead to its creation.
How Pure Signal Scout's design and interface enables security teams to visualize threat intelligence more easily.
The different ways in which Team Cymru collaborate to create Pure Signal Scout, from development and early testing, to how marketing positions the product, to support for the product after launch.
How Pure Signal Scout was built to be user friendly by being faster, more flexible, and more initiative for threat hunters.
The possibilities that Pure Signal Scout offers to security teams, including building an internal systems of alerting using Scout's API.
How Pure Signal Scout differentiates from other threat intelligence platforms on the market, especially in terms of the quality of the data offered.
The impact that Pure Signal Scout will make out, giving security teams the increased ability to proactively watch and block threats, and improve their security posture.

Thursday Jun 29, 2023

In this week's episode of the Future of Cyber Risk podcast, David speaks to Mark Lanterman, Founder & CTO of Computer Forensic Services, a provider of electronic discovery, forensic analysis, litigation support, and advisory and consultation services. They discuss the role of digital forensics, especially in criminal cases where it can help bring justice. They also discuss how to prepare your organization for a cyber event, how forensics has changed in the era of cloud, what the future of cyber risk management will look like, and what advice new CISOs or CTOs should follow.
Topics discussed:
Mark's background in both computer science and in law enforcement, and how every day there’s a new mystery to solve at Computer Forensic Services, a digital forensics crime lab.
The difference between what eDiscovery and forensics can tell you, and why forensics answers the "how," "who," "when," and "why."
How forensics has changed in the cloud era, and why it's critical to log, log, log.
The story of a murder case that was solved by finding a deleted note on a seized computer.
Why preparing for a cyber event is like preparing for game day, and why it's better to fail in practice than when it really matters.
What the future of cyber risk management will look like, and how security will be integrated across an organization.
Advice for new CISOs or CTOs that include staying self-critical, always being mentally prepared for the worst, and the importance of great communication skills.

Thursday Jun 15, 2023

In this week's episode of the Future of Cyber Risk podcast, David speaks to Troels Oerting, Chairman of the Board at BullWall. They discuss the insights Troels has learned across his long career in global cybersecurity leadership, which include how to build bridges of cooperation and communication between public and private entities, industries, and countries to better combat cybercrime. They also discuss the gaps in today’s cybersecurity landscape, the importance of running exercises to practice for imminent threats, and what the future of cyber risk will look like.
Topics discussed:
The evolution of Troels' deep career in cybersecurity, starting as a police officer, to serving as CISO at Barclays, to becoming the Director of the Global Center for Cybersecurity at the World Economic Forum.
How international collaboration around cybersecurity has changed, and why there's the need for more cooperation and bridge-building between countries.
Key lessons learned from being a CISO at Barclays, like why there needs to be more communication across the industry and how banks "put their money where their mouth is" to form a cyber alliance.
The need for the public and private sector to work together on exchanging information in a non-punitive way that benefits both parties.
Significant gaps in the current cybersecurity landscape, and how governments and organizations can work to manage better security approaches.
Three elements of the future of cybersecurity, including the increase in normalization of the risk, more risk-based approaches to security, and a new focus on resilience.
How to use exercises and practice to prepare for future hacks — and why it's essential to invite the board to participate.

Friday Jun 02, 2023

In this week's episode of the Future of Cyber Risk podcast, David speaks to Renee Dudley, reporter at ProPublica and co-author of The Ransomware Hunting Team: A Band of Misfits' Improbable Crusade to Save the World from Cybercrime. Renee tells about how her investigative reporting focus took her to cybercrime and ransomware, and how in her research she met a "ransomware hunting team" of a dozen individuals who crack ransomware for victims and rarely ask for anything in return. She also talks about her investigation into companies who claim to help victims with ransoms but are actually scams and how individuals can protect themselves against a ransomware attack.
Topics discussed:
How Renee got into covering cybersecurity, which was sparked by seeing how CISOs were frustrated about not getting funding from their board, and which eventually became a primary topic of her investigative reporting.
How she researched and wrote The Ransomware Hunting Team, including the story of how she tracked down ransomware expert DemonSlay335 and learned about the independent threat hunting team made up of a dozen private researchers like him who help victims of ransomware.
What the mindset and altruistic motivation is behind individuals who crack ransomware and save victims millions of dollars (and it’s not fame and fortune).
How Renee investigated companies that offer assistance to those who have been impacted by ransomware, uncovering that while some are transparent and legit, some are scamming the victims that seek their help.
What steps individuals can take to protect themselves against a ransomware attack, including having offline backups, setting up 2FA, and being wary of phishing emails.
The similarities between the hunters and the hackers in terms of skills and motivation, including a mutual respect for each other, and how each team tries to recruit the other.

Thursday May 18, 2023

In this week's episode of the Future of Cyber Risk podcast, David speaks to Brian Kime, Associate Director of Threat Intelligence and Hunt Lead at Carrier, a global leader in intelligent climate and energy solutions. They discuss the biggest cyber risks to manufacturing companies and how to keep OT environments safe — and why the biggest threat to production is a ransomware attack that impacts the IT systems. They also discuss the need for implementing zero trust and segmenting identities, what key skills are needed to be successful in cyber risk management, security innovations in the military, and why the future of cyber risk management will see organizations prioritizing their own internal data.
Topics discussed:
The evolution of Brian's career as an "expert generalist," including work both on the enterprise defender side and the vendor side, doing research at Forrester, and coming back to the enterprise side at Carrier — as well as serving in the US Army Reserve.
What measures are most successful in protecting manufacturing OT systems against cyber threat, including the necessity of tabletop exercises, implementing zero trust, and the need for segmentation of identities.
Why ransomware is still the biggest threat to manufacturing, and how attackers can halt production and OT systems by ransoming IT systems.
The biggest threats to the global supply chain today, and how tensions in one part of the world — Ukraine and South Asia specifically — can disrupt supply chain timing and costs globally.
The military's approach to cyber risk management, the challenge of working with smaller tech companies as contractors, and why innovation today is soldier-centered. 
What key skills are required for cyber risk management success, including the need for critical thinking around context and audience, and why writing skills are necessary for communicating business value and risk.
What cyber risk management will look like in five years, and why organizations will find it more effective to prioritize their own internal data over outside sources.

Thursday May 04, 2023

In this week's episode of the Future of Cyber Risk podcast, David speaks to Julie Chickillo, VP, Head of Security at Guild Education, a platform where workers can gain the skills and support they need to grow in their careers. They discuss current trends around cyber risk management, including the rising need to integrate more data privacy into security practices. They also talk about how security teams can better understand how risk impacts business decisions, how to weed out "dark patterns" when developing software, and how to support team growth through continuous learning opportunities — including a security book club.
Topics discussed:
The evolution of Julie's career, from being in legal, security, governance, risk, and compliance for nearly 20 years, to becoming head of security at Guild Education, a career enableist platform.
The day-to-day actions of a head of security, including overseeing the privacy and risk groups, looking for new ways to support the team, and keeping up with developments in the industry by talking to founders.
What security practitioners get wrong about cyber risk management, and why practitioners shouldn't own the risk themselves.
Why Julie likes talking to founders about what they're seeing across the industry, and how you can find them at conferences and trade shows "on the outside."
What skills and training are important for a security team, including learning a language like Python, taking free courses, engaging in book clubs, sharing opportunities on Slack, and more.
The necessity of being able to translate data and privacy concerns to business leaders, and to be able to talk about the impact to business decisions.
What dark patterns are, how they impact privacy and data use, and how to better consider user experience when designing software.

Monday Apr 24, 2023

Lewis Heuermann, Lead Associate of Cyber Risk Management at Booz Allen Hamilton, and Tom Cross, Independent Security Consultant, speak with David about the complexities threat hunters and their organizations face when dealing with cyber risk management and how to cultivate a holistic cybersecurity ecosystem for sustainable business success. 
In this episode, the conversation focuses on striking a balance between proactive risk management and maintaining day-to-day cybersecurity operations. They emphasize the importance of effective communication and collaboration between different departments within an organization to better understand and address potential cybersecurity threats. 
Topics discussed:
The difficulties faced by cybersecurity professionals in persuading leadership to invest more in cybersecurity and the importance of presenting real-world context to demonstrate the potential risks.
The challenge of maintaining a balance between proactive cyber risk management and daily operations, ensuring that organizations can effectively manage both aspects.
The role of the CISO in aligning cybersecurity efforts with overall business objectives to ensure a more effective risk management strategy.
The million-dollar question: How to convince leadership to invest in cybersecurity.
The need for collaboration between departments like marketing, finance, and IT to foster a more comprehensive understanding of the business landscape and potential cybersecurity threats. 
How to move from a ticket taker/problem solver mindset to one that embraces innovation and strategic thinking in cybersecurity.
How to involve senior leaders, such as the CFO and CIO, in cybersecurity discussions to ensure a more holistic approach to risk management.
Understanding the business perspective and aligning cybersecurity strategy with it is crucial for effective risk management and overall organizational success.
Resources: 
Voice of a Threat Hunter Report 
Paul Graham's Maker's Schedule, Manager's Schedule
Lewis Heuermann on LinkedIn
Tom on Mastodon
 

Thursday Apr 13, 2023

In this episode, David speaks with Kodjo Hogan, the Director of Information Security and Governance Risk and Compliance at Chainalysis, to discuss the operational and managerial tasks in risk management for blockchain companies, the risks of AI and quantum computing to blockchain, and Kodjo provides actionable advice for security practitioners. 
Topics discussed:
Kodjo’s experience transitioning from an accounting background to an information technology role
The benefits of having an accounting background for understanding risk assessment and analysis
Operational and managerial tasks in risk management for blockchain companies
The biggest threats of the future: AI and quantum computing
The risks of AI and quantum computing to blockchain
Actionable advice for security practitioners, including the importance of adaptability and critical thinking
Developing a sales mentality for security and risk management
The importance of communication and explaining risks to non-technical business managers
The need for risk modeling and understanding risk appetite
Exploring the potential of AI in cybersecurity, including AI penetration testing
Kodjo’s perspective on risk management in the next five years

Thursday Mar 30, 2023

In this episode, David speaks to Bronwyn Boyle, who has over 20 years of experience as a director, head of security, and CISO working in technology and security in financial services and supporting a range of organizations. 
During the episode, they discuss how risk management needs to evolve with today's tech changes, the advantages and challenges of AI, and advice for security leaders — and women who want to get involved in the industry.
Topics discussed:
The evolution of Bronwyn's career in cybersecurity, from starting as a software developer, to working with RegTech and FinTech startups, to becoming CISO at a SaaS cloud banking platform.
How risk management has evolved and how it needs to keep up with the velocity of technological changes happening every day.
What it means to be at the tipping point of adoption for new services and approaches to cybersecurity, like AI.
What most CISOs get wrong, and why success can be found in more collaboration and a better understanding of the business context for cybersecurity.
How artificial intelligence and machine learning will open up a number of opportunities for cybersecurity, like improving analytics and reducing alerts — but will also open up opportunities for adversaries as well.
Advice for women who want to grow their career in cybersecurity and tech, and the need for good role models and sponsors.
Three pieces of advice for security leaders, and the need to work together to prepare for the future shifts in security.
Resources Mention: 
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bronwynboyle/

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